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listening to every one it is funny that there's is a sought of understanding that this sucks but it is OK! from Ms. D and Fanning I felt they where different but similar in most of there options. i feel like i was expecting to much from them. i was expecting an explanation or some ideas about the industrialization of school. what i felt was that they where fine with it and to them it made sense. compared to every one else i talked to this is opposite of what my mother , brother, friends, other family, aqquaintance and other school teachers. why is it that they had a good feeling about institutionalized schooling? i mean Mr. Fanning said that a perfect eduction is a never ending one , this is great but his perspective of education was werid he felt it had to do with instuitions and degrees. i wonder wha he would feel about home schooling or unschooling? he relly seems to feel that a good edcuation is one in a building that will give you a paper sayign you did it. also does he want poeple to constanly go to school even when they are old? i think school is not a place of learning but of reshaping and i have learned more out side of school than i have inside. what bothers me too is when some one said some thing abut child based curiousty learning he said " when poepel say why cant we learn what we want i always say you know abuot mtv and music videos you wouldnt be learning any thing." i mean this was offenseive in some ways but i can understand in his point of view why he woulod say that. offienve becuase i dont atch mtv i really know notihng about it. i have and had curioistys about things that could easyly have been classes like physics, poilticl philosy , evoulstioary psycology ,japanese history , american history ,social science , biblcal histlory ,avataion , germen history, rennisace artiture , feminsim ,film making and on and on and on. there is no mtv or any real bull shit that he thoght i would like to learn about. and i feel he was belitting me and peers off of some obsumtion he had. did you know kevin likes astro physics? i mean i was talkign to him about white holes and how black holes work and alot i do not remeber it all but he was curious about it. i think is sucks that mr fanning assumes so much with out knowing so much. i feel that eveyr one has there own curiosty that may stem form other things in there lives. maybe if kevin had some way to feed this he might get in to history of astromy ,particle physics hell i mean who really knows he will never be expoased or given the time to expose him self to some thign he likes and is constuctive. so the point of all this was to show how instistiosn really destory the curtios some one has and it never goes any where it just sits.
another thing i want to address is the how i can understand why he would feel that. all he is reciving is poeple failing and wanting to watch mtv more than the stuff he wants them to do. so it is fusting but to assume so little from a large group of poeple is think is pushing it really i wonder why does he like his job if so many are so hopelesss? i wouldn't.

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Where is the movie?? I feel like to do this would be to bull shit should I bull shit?

from what i can tell this movie is about a fall. if i had to make a picture of this it wold be a person falling off a cliff only to get caught by a net to then fall to their death. this is a different movie i think then any other super teacher movies. this was reverse roles and a sad ending it is good to be different and funny too. my part was to ask a question and to get the class to all agree with me. my part is not big but i think it worked. from what i can tell this movie it looks funny and that there is a lot of drama and internal conflict in it which is similar but different from other super teacher movies.

most super teacher movies are different that it is more expertanla dn teacher helping. also the idea of hope is always present and never leaves. it seems that in all these other movies teacher play the guardian angels to the student but now it is like the students are a team of angles sent to save the teacher. reminds me of the angles who went to save Lots from the destruction of Sodom where the angles came down saved him and his family only for his wife to turn t salt and he to have sex with his daughters . so this is similar to the movie because there is a save but it ultimately cost a lot and the you can argue even if it worked.

treatment for movie

well i need a point were will we be going with this. if the point is to show how bad school is and how it is point less. we could begin with on the street unductral and have a grown up chater homeless out of luck bakeing almost mercyfull in the sun not caring maybe do a flash back or some thing and go to him at school whe he was younger (maybe have an adudlt looking person then transition to him in school looking at some grades that are really good *the point should be that school is notthe only thing you need to be ecomoicly sucessfull in this cultureand how the school systeam is based around complete crap.also how school being in here doesnt teach you any thing you need in this place.* any ways this kid is looking at grades pan out and maybe they sick smile and this kid who is not even look at his card but is playing with blocks and this runs up to him and knockes them over (showing he is mean and useing the frueden knocking down his penis and destroyuing his power but taking down th power of his tower of blocks) kids are in high school but poeple think this kid obseesed with blocks is dumb.this person *(not sure on gender)* walks poud and shows off and asked poeple what they got knowing they did bad maybe since we have a time frame they could beat some one or really exgrate t˙em being bad and mean like hitting poepel with chairs and make really show that they are in charge and have the power. then we can go to how they keep the power makeing fun of poeple and such and kissing the teachers ass.

ideas fpr the movie.

i dont want it ti be serious. i feel those movie that have our buget fall apart and tend to turn in to a pardory with out meaning to be. i would like a pardy that is fun werid and teachs some thign about schooling. i dont know what i would want the messages to be. maybe constructions of power in class and maybe we should have the kids break it or go with it as a pardory. maybe we could make sense of what kids should learn in school maybe like the perfect school what kids should learn in school. i hope that it is fun and i think if we have to find out all the people in it do all the classes make a movie as a grade or each class and when and how should we film. maybe we could have a story with a teacher who changes there act every day i mean like they come in liek some millataryr person and soon trun in to some one wearing short shorts and is haveing fun. i think we need to clear out the mission and the charter of the teacher. if we make a pardory i think we need focus becasue we would go all over the place. maybe there should be some big conflict like the murder in red shoes maybe some thing liek that to focus on but nothting serious. i hope this works it seems like alot of fun.

knowing your rights

reading this book was ofcorse simple and easy to read which it needs to be i think so that any one could read it. what i found funny was how comlpeteated it can be some times simple but taht only if some thing really bad. i thought that it is still more a systeam desighed to have aboidance rather then learning. i would think some thing about learning would b in the rights like a student has the right to learn what they want or to choose some thing else if they give good reason why the state learning wasnt good. but in an envorment of control and it's only ponit is not clear in the rights i ofent ask so what the point of the rights to give an illsuhtion of rights or of some power when really there is none unless they break some culture barrier then every one gets in to your shit.i mean reading this i notice that alot of rights are broken by teachers parnets and almost many authoerty fiughers it would be nice if this was thought to kids when they where younger insteas of the bull shit pilgrimes i thnk this is more imporntatn and some times these rights can help btu ti is hard to make them work for you when they where ment to not really work for you. also why havent i known about my rights till my last semster in public school? this si a problem and this can connect to my idea theiss thing which is kinda like why and how does school destory curiousty? is it the idea of powerlessness that is given at schools taht make people feel like they dont matter? looking at the rights it is still almost backwards that they dont make a big change in schooling or make the experice for the student any better. it is like little nip pickiing i felt that doesnt change any thing. i feel liek poeple go thourhg so muchtrouble to make these rights so that student would have a more comforble learning expericene ( i hope that what they wanted) i thnk instead of makeing it morecomforble why not just take out what is there that is still uncomforble. i went thorugh a sitution like this when i was in elemeary school i sat by the garbage can and it smelled bad so i held my nose or tryed not to breath in the stank. then i was trying my best to get comforble as possible with it but it was still crappy so i just moved the garbage can to the another part of the room. i think these rights are like us covering our noes and trying to inoroger the problme when we know the problem i think we can just get rid of what is not working or makeing us suffer.

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i think sizer ideas where great and made sense and tried to fit well in to a syteam that sucked. i feel that it does the job but it is not complete freedom. that there is still a control over what the kids learn and how they learn. mean how they learn is good for the materals taht this systeam wants them too. it is revlionary to a shitty systeam. it is like you got a huge rock but this is better way to carry it. but i would rather where there wont be a rock. i feel that there are it is emtionally and intellacally better than the normal systeam.can they work toughter? i feel that one will eat the other or they will stay as a small sizer systeam. i hope schools in the future become free er. my own experican here has been differnt from class to class. some years they are every much remeamber facts and nothing else. some where thinking and involded he student to really think but i remeber more of the remebre facts than any other else which is a shame. i would think there is a better systeam use it why use the one that doesnt go with what the school is about. i mea it is beter why not? i no kathleen did the sizer ways in science class which is hard but it worked. but i think this whole time im learning stuff that i dont care about or i have curoistys with some thing else, i remreber in 7th grade i was really curious about plato it wasnt all that exploered which is a shame as well i think it was better to know that then how the pilgrames got freedom for the 7th time. if i could control my education i think it would be just as meaningfull or more then what i was thought is school for 13 years.

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this is my college essay thing i did about education. i think it has good points it is really kiss assy and edited by ali jo alot but it is still good and shows my feeling on liberal arts a little.


What does a liberal arts education mean to you? Why do you want to pursue your degree at Eugene Lang College?

My idea of liberal arts is it is more general and it is not specialize people to a certain type skill or education, but liberal arts focuses more on developing the thinking and intellectual processes of students. To me this is not becoming a robot programed to do one thing to instead take what I learn and not just use it in the work place but also in my day to day living. I feel liberal arts is real learning. many other forms of eduction teach how to regurgitate things said to you before. I don"t want that, that is not in anyway an education but a new program. So when your asked a question all you have to do is remember that information. Liberal arts teaches how to think and in many way forces you to think which is something many schools from k to 12 do not teach. Education should focus more on intellectual thinking and not the "save this in your hard drive!" attitude that education has had for now. there is a quote that I think sums it up "You have nothing to say and no way to say it but you can say it in three languages." Liberal art I think breaks this and allows students the opportunity to learn many things about not only the world but ourselves. The point is that they will have some thing to say and not just throw up information. Eugene Lang will be the place where I will learn how to think and to say some thing that I thought of and to say it, share it and probably have with other people doing the same thing and learning from them. In a small class and sharing a room with them for while I'd like to see who they are and what they think. many schools do not have that intimacy and it is almost privilege to know who you are sitting next to they probably have great things to say. Most schools there is a disconnect with other students and it is like they are alienating people which is an environment I do not want to be in or take part in.
Thinking is some thing seldom done that I know Eugene Lang teaches how to think in an environment where you know who is talking and who is who. Really I would matter in the class I wouldn't be another person just sitting there I would be part of some thing and what I would say some thing that would affect the class. This is such a great thing because I think that many people feel so unimportant and insignificant (I do too) that having this where people would listen to them I can't pass that up. This is some thing I would love and I know I will flourish in this environment.




even though i say alot of good things about it i still feel a school is a school it is trying to change some thing a little when there is a really big problem. if they really wanted to get a new kind or a better type of education shouldnt it be better to get the school part out. not haveing an instiuion that is run like ti was 100 years ago . like no matter how deep you are in a lake your still wett liberal arts is near the surface but it is wet . to leave this lake of schooling and beocme dry of it you need to leave the lake out right. i feel schooling is not true education. educaion means "the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life." schooling isnt learning but instilliing nothing but temporaly facts.